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Immediate peace possible for Palestine-Israel

Seeded on Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:11 AM EST
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US, UK, Israel need & promote "terror"; just interim peace possible NOW vs hate & ethnic cleansing

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Yaakov

Some choice quotes from the referenced article (emphasis is mine):

Unfortunately, US, UK, Israeli and Mainstream Media propaganda has deliberately and effectively obscured the basic reality that it is "terror" that "legitimizes" and hence "politically enables" the US, UK, Israeli and Coalition occupation of Muslim lands in the Middle East and Central Asia

The US, UK and Israel benefit enormously from "terror" – indeed so enormously in fact that sensible analysts suspect significant US, UK and Israeli involvement in terrorism.

So let me get this straight. The US, UK and Israel are really causing all of these terror attacks to happen, just to have an excuse to "occupy Muslim lands"? Yeah, that was pretty shrewd of Bush to arrange the destruction of the World Trade Center just to have an excuse to go go into Afghanistan. And those Israelies...wow...pretty gutsy of them to arrange for suicide attacks on public buses just to have an excuse to "keep the occupation going".

the GENOCIDAL prospect of "leave or die" when racist Zionist fanatics finally decide to simply turn off the water supply in a terminal act of "ethnic cleansing"

Such harsh terms you are throwing around with such zeal! So you are saying that if there is no peace agreement (according to the terms you propose) that Israel the "racist Zionist fanatics" will wake up one day and just kill all of the Arabs living in...

The ALTERNATIVE to such immediate Peace with Justice is a continuing nightmare in which about 4 million Palestinians of the Occupied Palestinian Territories will be progressively confined to 4 tightly-guarded, densely-populated, walled-in concentration camps (Gaza, Samaria, East Jerusalem and the West Bank)

...4 concentration camps? Do you even know what those terms mean? A concentration camp was a place where Nazis brought Jews (and other people they did not like) to be gassed and executed. You equate this with Gaza, Samaria, East Jerusalem and the West Bank?

(And by the way, Samaria and East Jerusalem are both part of "the West Bank".)

Israel also has COMPLICITY in immense post-1950 avoidable mortality in neighbouring countries it has violently partly occupied (29 million deaths) and in countries (excluding the USS Liberty incident) that it has attacked militarily (42 million)

Where do these numbers come from? 29 million deaths + 42 million deaths = 71 million deaths that Israel is responsible for? Have anything to back up those numbers? (And I think that it is a stretch to call USS Liberty Incident a military attack on another country. Though even if you want to call it that, that only gives you 32 deaths. Where do the other 70,999,968 come from?)

All of the talk here about how Israel has been lax in its responsibilities to the Arabs living in Gaza/West Bank is making it seem like Israel has done its best over the years to ensure that this situation continues. (And they did this of course because they are "racist Zionist fanatics" who are inclined towards acts of "ethnic cleansing", right?) It did not have to be that way. If the PLO and Hamas (and others) had not decided to use ambulances to transport terrorists, or had not decided to send in suicide bombers masquerading as pregant women then maybe, just maybe, there wouldn't be such (justified) suspicion and inspection every time an ambulance needs to get through a checkpoint. Maybe if there weren't dozens of daily threats of suicide bombers and terrorist attacks, there would not have to even be any checkpoints.

Things in the real world, and especially in the middle east, do not happen in vacuums. This is not how things are presented in this article.

And as to your plan itself, why don't you explain how the first point will be achieved: "Palestinian militia disarmament"? This was one of the conditions for the original Oslo agreement sham in 1992, as well as all subsequent "peace plans". Are you going to go to Hamas HQ and ask them to turn in their weapons? I am sure that if the case for it is presented as convincingly as it is in the referenced article, you will have no trouble whatsoever.

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